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very interesting, but I don't agree with you
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Dre

when did kobe not play hard???

dt

I disagree about LA. The city is extraordinarily supportive. It's a city of second chances. And it's given Kobe 5 or 6 chances. But his time is up.

Disciple One

Why does everyone defend this dude, Kobe so hard? I agree that the Lakers organization is a mess right now, and that they have done an awful job supporting Kobe with quality players, and that nobody works harder or wants to win more than Kobe. But this dude is the most selfish basketball player around. I agree with Magic's comments on TNT the other night that said Kobe was partially to blame for running Shaq out of town, and the Lakers gave this guy everything he wanted(except quality teammates)supported him at his lowest moments(rape case) and picked him over Shaq and this is the thanks they get! Dude has shown no loyalty to the lakers or the city of L.A. If he wants to go good riddance, just this time make sure we get quality back in return unlike the last time when we traded Shaq!

Ray

Are you crazy? Did you watch the damn game! I know points aren't the only thing, but if Im not mistaken, he had the most rebounds, assist, steals, blocks, fouls, and turnovers...and he's not playing hard? Again, are you crazy? Fans get so caught up in what these so called NBA analyst are saying, they dont watch the game with an unbias eye. Unless he's playing point guard or low post, he should never lead his time in assist and rebounds. Brown, Bynum, Mims are at least 6'11 and over 260lbs and they are pathetic. He finally has a decent point guard in Fisher, but Odom was out..and you wonder why he was going one-on-one so much? Who in the hell else is going to score? On top of that, they're in the West. Houston has T-Mac and Yao, two All-Stars and they barely beat the Lakers...are you kidding me? Do you really think T-Mac, Lebron, Wade, Garnett, Duncan, Dirk, Shaq would do any better...are you crazy? People talking about being selfish, with that sorry team, what else can he do but shoot as much as possible and he has his coach telling him to put it up. Name me one other person on that team besides Odom (and he's inconsistent at best) that another team would trade for, please check out the roster again...NOBODY. Last year NJ had Kidd, Jefferson and Carter and finished 1 game below the Lakers...and they're in the East. Dude, look at the talent on the Lakers, there is none. Stop fooling yourself and think the Lakers would be any better with someone else besides Kobe. Looking at that roster, dude, Kobe needs some serious help.

Watch the damn game!

Lindell is gay

fuck you!
how dare u talk shit like this about kobe!
u saw the game yesterday!?
Kobe and fisher are the only 2 players that gave the game 110% effort in the lakers team!
stop writing BS! Fuck YOU

Lindell

I want to thank everyone who made a comment-- although my post focused singularly on the pre-season, there was something dispassionate about Kobe's play against Houston. I have maintained--throughout a series of archived posts--that Mr. Bryant is the best player on the planet. And, I defended him being labelled selfish last season when Mr. Jackson clearly directed him to take more shots. The issue, this season, is that both sides have lost trust and faith in one another--and, I believe this impasse is insurmountable. The only way this is going is downhill. And, after 12 seasons, Mr.Bryant deserves better--the fans deserve better-- and, the organization (who bears great culpability in this morass) deserves better. The only solution is that Mr. Bryant must be traded.

Kenny

Ryan, I completely agree with you. I am a huge Kobe fan myself, but if you noticed the way he played, you would notice something more. I am very disappointed that he went back into his selfish, ignorant, and discouraging role of his younger days. I have expected to mature beyond that by now, 10+ yrs. in the league.

Notice the difference in how the Lakers played last night compared to the Kings game without Kobe. Sure it was preseason, but they played motivated, excited, and as a team. With Kobe out there last night, it looked pitiful and depressing, until the last 2 minutes of the game. As a fan, if you can't notice that, I feel you are foolishly blinded.

I'm getting the sense that the team is so sick of his selfish antics and is ready to move on without him, including Phil.

phil

Know that in ESPN.com's Wednesday bullets, the quote from this blog omits the little (during the preseason) thing you have right after you say kobe disrespected the game by not playing hard. Im just repeating myself, but if anyone who watched last nights game saw kobe drop 8 in a 10-0 run during the last 1.5 minutes before getting the game tying assist to fish wouldnt say kobe's wants anything other than to win.

Ryan

I agree with your post. Kobe may have scored forty-five last night, but his scoring takes a back seat to his body language and selfish play. How many times did Kobe go one-on-four last night? Sure he got to the line, but did so at the cost of alienating his teammates. Did you see his body language during timeouts?
He was totally aloof, and in the process is setting his teammates up to play for his pleasure, rather than victories. We've all had an experience playing ball, where a team plays to gain approval from their star, instead of playing to win. Blame falls equally on Kobe and the Laker's front office. It's one thing to demand a trade, but it's quite another to throw your teammates and your organization under the bus. Finally, how many good players are going to want to lace it up with Kobe? I have a hard time believing that his current antics are not going to scare off guys that might have been, at some point in time, allies.

laker legacy

I agree with you in saying that Kobe is not bigger then the Lakers. However I also see that you state that is the organizations fault for making things public and for not being able to calm the storm between their superstar and themselves. So I am a bit shocked with your point of view of just shipping kobe out and starting from scratch. What kind of sense does that make?

If you ask me the organization is lacking some leadership. IF someone was able to say look whats been said is done we must now let it go and begin to take the franchise to the level it deserves to be at.

As much as I luv Kobe he has never been the person to be able to take a step back and say I was wrong and lets move on. He can hit any clutch shot but to lead vocally is not his thing.

I can see how someone could quickly think kobe is disrepecting the game and the Legacy so lets get rid of him. But honestly stop and think about this we are going to get rid of one of the best players that we have seen play the game in a long time, because of bickering and pointing fingers. Maybe we should take a step back and realize which way our organization is heading. Why couldn't we hire Jerry West back? Someone who the players(including Kobe) and the fans admire and trust will make the right decisions in getting this team back to championship caliber.

AugDogg

PS If the lakers focused on this season rather than this ridiculous controversy we would be a team with a way better record then last year.

PSeay

I have allways been a lakers fan, right now I am more a Kobe fan then a lakers fan. If he is gone i will watch whatever team he goes to, instead of watching the lakers.

lakertime

when did kobe commit this sin? i think you are tripping hardcore.

Sumeet Gossain

Maybe you should catch a tape of last night's game (Houston at LA, 10-30-07)

Russell Scherwin

Good points all around. I think you read a bit into a couple pre-season games. No one plays hard in the pre-season. That's why the games are irrelevant.

I'm sure he'll be back to being the most competitive and talented and skilled player since MJ once the games matter.

Let's not forget that he's also a player who respects the game's history and integrity more than most.

Ropb

how dare you call your self a fan
kobe almost saved us last nite
the organization should apoligize and someone should find a way to get this organization away from buss
Kobe has evry rite to be pissed

Jamie

I guess 45 isnt hard enough for you?

jeff

because if you're talking about how he played last night, you must've been watching the wrong game.

Stephen

Are you saying he didn't play hard last night? Or are you talking about the pre-season?

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